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Why do people not use open source software? I'm not sure exactly.

I mean, I see why if your a gamer... but when you decide to stop squandering time away with games, what do you need that isn't open source? And free, by the way.

@herag No open source software is 1/10th as accessible to users who are blind, or deaf, or have mobility issues as Windows, MS Office, OSX or iOS are accessible. Period.

Instead of shrieking FREE!!! for the past few decades, OSS could have included disability access as a 'core value.' Instead, OSS says 'here's some FREE software that you can FREELY never use for FREE.'

If the answer is 'build your own!' then, again, OSS has zero value to the disabled.

No excuse after this many decades.

@onan @herag There's a debian-accessibility mailing list that might be one good place to send any specific suggestions as to how it could be done better if you have some.
@onan @herag as libre software is often started and maintained by people using it, there's a lot less software that a blind or deaf person could use. I heard of a blind person using emacs, so it's not impossible - it's actually easier to add disability minded features in open software than in closed one, by the sole fact that any person interested in implementing those isn't stopped by a contract, nda or the need to reverse engineer it first. That's a freedom, one that is preached by FSF, to see the unobstructed source and being free to change and distribute it.
And FSF also knows about the problem, please take a look at https://www.gnu.org/accessibility/accessibility.en.html

@herag Spend a while doing some actual work.
Page layout: Pages/Word vs OpenOffice.
Numerical/data work: Numbers/Excel vs OpenOffice.
Music/sound editing: GarageBand vs Audacity (RIP, was useful for very small edits in one track).
Software dev: BBEdit, SublimeText, Xcode, VSCode ("OSS" but really only MS) vs fucking archaic emacs. Atom's OK, but slow.
File management: Finder vs everything else.

Free software is *always* inferior to tools made with love & business in mind.

@mdhughes maybe I'm spoiled. But when I learned LateX I found word and all of those tools relatively useless. And I learned it in a matter of a day or two.

Then there's vim. I haven't used another editor that compares in efficiency to that, to be honest.

As for the others, I am not experienced enough with them. Audacity. It is fine, but I am more efficient with ffmpeg and some other tools.

Perhaps I am a little spoiled, but I have yet to find a closed software that works as well.

@herag That's the opposite of spoiled, you're living in a yurt in the woods and don't realize cars and showers and cafés are nicer!

Doing layout in LaTeX is fucking maddening, compared to nice layout programs.

Vim's fine for single files, or as a fallback, but it's terrible for big projects. It's what I used to use, and it doesn't compete with a tool that knows about your code.

Get access to a Mac, make a guest account, try out the tools I listed, most have free trials.

@mdhughes well I only work with Python, but I can usually manipulate quite a few files without ever touching my mouse. I guess Vim is my real sticking point. I have used VSCode and a few others, but they are... very insufficient. Now I am only learning C now. So perhaps you are right, but with Python GUI programs just slow you down. Also, Vim is code aware, surprisingly so. I only just recently found this out in the config and plugins.

@herag Vim's not code-aware, it just uses regex. Which is fine for simple things like syntax highlighting, but it can't help you navigate your code or do refactoring (except in the crudest regex-possible ways). ctags helps, but it's awful getting it to work reliably.

Also, paint/pixelfucking programs. I mostly use Acorn and GraphicConverter; Pixelmator, Photoshop, etc are better for pros. GIMP is suffering. Krita's the only good OSS art tool I've ever seen.

@mdhughes maybe, then, I don't do complex enough code to need anything more, but personally I think if code gets so complex that you need a special tool, then I don't want to be the person programming that.

Right now, my computer does everything I would ever want it to do, and it does it extremely efficiently, mostly from my terminal.

The only GUI programs I really use is my window manager, Darktable, gimp, and my browser. They all do exactly what I need.

@mdhughes once upon a time I owned a MacMini and a macbook and used a MacPro at my university lab. I enjoyed the tools on these machines, but the limitations they imposed were fairly unpleasant to me.

So I ventured out and found free software, where the license was nonrestrictive. I was able to do a lot more and feel like I owned my machines. That's when I converted to the cult of free software fully.

The end.

P.S. Mac's OS from 2008 was a lot better than modern MacOS imho

@herag I went the other way, from goddamned useless Linux that can't play audio, to Mac, and it's better in every way. It's a better UNIX workstation, and actual desktop software isn't terrible. I still have Linux machines for various uses, and they are no better than in 2005.

I prefer, vastly, the UI from Tiger, but the underlying macOS is better now than ever. If you actually want to do work, not pray to RMS.

@herag You're just missing out on everything. There's more to life than living in a text editor. And it's not about complexity, but having the tools help you instead of just being a teletype from 1960.

@herag The little stuff's even more biased for good paid software. Drafts. Things. 1Password. OmniGraffle/Outliner/Focus. Toggl. Day One.

There's literally nothing free in that class that's even usable.

I had a look a couple years ago and Linux program situation was pathetic: mdhughes.tech/2018/07/04/minim

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